supachris26 Xbox-HQ Enthusiast Xbox Version: V1.3 Modded: X-BIT
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: Power Supply
What's the eaisest way to test a power supply?.. i have a voltage meeter. I wanna make sure that the motherboard is getting power from the power supply
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how do u test the power supplies particularly the 1.6 thanks
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:02 am
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Hiya
If you dont have the motherboard I would plug it in and test all the plugs (HD and MOBO) for volatge with a multimeter. I would also test the fuse for continuity.
But if you don't know what you are doing as it's high voltage, and in the uk at least it is enough to kill you.
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:55 pm
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Ill post later with more details when I get next to my Xbox later, but I wanted to post this quickly so that you dont make a crucial mistake.
DO NOT turn on a PC (or xbox) powersupply without a load attactched to it. This can destroy a powersupply (if it isnt already broken). This is because this is a switching powersupply. It is meant to give the same voltage no matter the electrical charicteristics of the circuit. The only prerequisite is that there be a circuit there (a load).
I learned this from one of my teachers when I was using an old powersupply to build a digital circuit prototyping lab for home. I showed him my idea and he ran that concept by me. I trust his word because his MA was in power distribution systems.
Ill write later with detailed instructions.
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:07 pm
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I know what your saying, ive never had any problem however, although I would normally just use a known working motherboard. However a few times I have switched it on with nothing plugged in, and never had any probs, in concept it's dodgy, but then so is picking up a chip without being grounded, and yet ive never damaged a chip either.
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:55 am
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Think of it as russian roulette. Ive handled many ICs in and out of school without a grounding strap and only had one damaged so far. It just happened to be a 512MB memory chip when I did. From now on when handling expencive ICs I use a strap, unless its something like a 74LS04 IC, thoes are cheap.
Ive been told by two professors (electrical engenners), one who build switching powersupplies, and the other who used large arrays of them. Both say I should always have a load attached to them to pevent a possibly damaged PS from being a damaged one. It makes the powersupply deviate from tolerances overtime by slightly changing the values of components. over time it WILL break your PS. It will "work", but it wont deliver correct voltages.
Ok heres how I check if its ok:
start with Xbox off
1) take apart your xbox as normal, remove the HDD, remove or keep plugged in and move aside, it dosent matter.
2) Place the black (negative) probe of the Voltmeter in the Molex plug (the plug should stay conected to the MB). Place the Black probe inside the top of the plug where a Black wire runs into (ive provided a picture)
3) turn on the Volt meter to the "20V DC" scale. DC is the V with a line and dashed line.
4) make sure that the red probe isnt touching metal.
5) turn on Xbox
6) with Xbox on start at the right and work to the left (skipping black wires) with the red probe.
Voltages should be near, and are seldomly at the nominal voltages. Expect a +- 10-15% tolerance.
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yep i think that pretty much sums it all up
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If your worried about your psu then test it with a multi meter while it's plugged in, but the one I have had sat here on my desk for ages powered up is still fine.
But now I have a swanky new regualted psu.
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