ArchAngle V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: v1.6 Modded: Xecuter 2.6 CE
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:43 am Post subject:
I'm in the mood for doing something I've not tried before and TSOPing one of my less used Xboxes has always been on my to do list.
Problem is the of Xboxes I have available two are v1.6 so ruled out and that leaves just three for consideration: a v1.2 which I really do not want to use as it is LE PAL Green one I've been trying to keep 'as new'. The two others are a genuine v1.0 and and confirmed v1.1.
That ^ tutorial which I found myself whilst trawling through YT for info is really only for v1.2 - v1.5 plus the guy, whilst knowledgeable, still makes some very obvious mistakes.
Consequently I'm looking for advice, specifically on v1.0/v1.1 TSOPing.
I've found, repeated on several sites the same basic tutorial with pictures. It looks as if you have to take out the whole MB so you can solder the long wire to the two points on the underside. I assume there is no simpler alternative.
Anything else useful of relevence please share.
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ArchAngle V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: v1.6 Modded: Xecuter 2.6 CE
Joined: Oct 03, 2014 Posts: 367
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:46 pm Post subject:
Resale value.
I doubt it will ever come to that but a physically unmolested LE Green PAL Xbox sells used for more than three times that of a standard black model in the UK. Typical £100+.
My one is softmodded but less used than my other Xboxes and cosmetically almost factory state, the controller likewise. If my primary chipped Xbox gives up the ghost and can't be repaired the LE Green one is earmarked to replace it.
I'd hate to stuff up any of them with a botched TSOP but the LE one in particular.
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:02 pm Post subject:
ArchAngle wrote:
I'd hate to stuff up any of them with a botched TSOP but the LE one in particular.
DJB dropped off a near brand new Green Halo Special Edition console and that's exactly what I'm worried about. I always try to keep my gear as original as possible but when i do go overbored modding, I make sure I buy a completely different box to go crazy on. lol
eg.
1 x Atari 7800 PAL with SVIDEO (Original Untouched)
1 x Atari 7800 PAL Modded AV INputs lol
1 x Commodore 64 (Factory)
1 x Commodore 64 (Modded to the hills with case lights whatever)
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:05 am Post subject:
Xbmcmodsforxbox wrote:
every last one of my xboxs are modded and opened up and if your console is a 1.0-1.5 console you pretty much should open your xbox cause if you have a clock cap in there it could blow and then your console does not work at all.
ArchAngle V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: v1.6 Modded: Xecuter 2.6 CE
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:23 pm Post subject:
I've actually been on Ebay this week looking for a TSOP-able 1.2 - 1.5 and found one quite easily. I had to contact the sellers to get confirmation of the manufacturing date. Three times otherwise perfect/sensibly priced Xboxes turned out to be either v1.0/v1.1 or v1.6s. I had one of the latter and another was very close to the v1.4/v1.5 period window, shown as mid-March 2004.
I was tempted to gamble on that but glad I did not because I found a genuinely retail state October 2003 one which should be a v1.4. The disc tray is very sticky and surprise, surprise it is a Samsung but apart from that everything works fine. Can't say the same thing for the controller (a Duke) - damaged in transit.
I've never seen as bad damage to anything I've ever bought mail order/online. The controller was wedged down the side of the bubble wrapped console so the trigger side was pressing against the side of the cardboard box. The whole right hand grip is cracked all the way through and there are two, roughly, half inch holes in the casing around the right trigger.
Write off.
But I've got a TSOP project Xbox and if everything goes to plan I'll be trying to do that some time next week.
I'm sorely tempted to try chipping one of my other spare Xboxes too. That link in another thread here to Amazon.com (US) for an Aladdin chip at under £10 including shipping to the UK is a very interesting idea.
ArchAngle V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: v1.6 Modded: Xecuter 2.6 CE
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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:05 pm Post subject:
I've done the TSOP. Yay!
Softmodded using SID 5.11 SC PAL no problem. Fitted a new larger HDD using Chimp 261812 and kept the original retail softmodded HDD locked (ConfigMagic) as safety net. Backed up everything of course ie. eeprom etc.
Can't add much to the tutorial information here on the actual TSOP process. It was a Winbond v1.4. the two pairs of points that needed to be bridged were easily identified form the tutorials. The first one went very easily but for the life of me I could not get the solder to stick to the second one. My concern mounted but after many attempts that was bridged too.
The PCB around it was a real mess of flux and melted plastic - worst ever soldering job I've done; embarrassing.
The trick seems to be to keep the soldering iron as vertical as possible and because of my middle-aged eyesight (presbyopia) I had to use a 'helping hands' magnifying glass set up with custom extension arm. It meant the soldering iron came in almost horizontally and the solder preferred to stick to that instead of the two connection points.
I'd recommend using some other magnifying system if required when they're attempting this which does not get in the way as much.
I'd also suspect that my use of solder with a flux core rather than the separate paint on flux that the tutorial guides seem to favour might have helped.
The Xbox rebooted just fine (big relief) and BIOS Checker confirmed the success reporting it now as a Winbond (TSOP?). I then used HexIns which I'd installed on the HDD for the flash (256K Evox8+137(F & G) and it worked just as shown in the YT tutorials I'd watched.
I used the HexIns menu option to clean and repopulate the C:\drive afterward.
All good so I unlocked the HDD with ConfigMagic and this was the one minor problem I had.
With Rocky5's update v1.6.1 (maybe earlier versions too) it seems to see the TSOP, as it still has softmodded files, as a softmod. There is no menu option to exit just a prompt to Lock The HDD, which of course, is vital for a softmod.
I suppose it is a simple safety net in that you have to deliberately turn off the Xbox to exit ConfigMagic but initially it confused me that I'd just unlocked the HDD from the menu but then prevented from exiting back to the dasboard.
The Xbox rebooted with the Evox logo I'm familiar with from my chipped Xbox and there were no problems at all except I found I had to re-partition the F:\ drive (Chimp again) as it was now showing 123GB rather than the 144GB it should have with a 160GB HDD.
Only problem I had after that is that I soon discovered that I'm not a fan of HeXEns UnleashX main dash organisation. It had put stuff on C:\ and I think E:\ too I didn't need or want. IndiBIOS.cfg.....WTF was that dong there when I'd used Evox8+? Also having the File Manager in a separate folder under Xbox Box Admin........nah! Its my most used dashboard facility.
So I decided to ditch the whole HDD set up as it was. I put it in an external USB housing (slave), reintialised it in Disk Management as it is still FATX and whilst Windows detects it that has to be done before any program can access it.
Bleached it on PC (CCleaner driver wiper) and then reformatted to NTFS.
Back to Xbox (master), cold booted my trusty AID 4.53 disc and walked through the new HDD set up menus to a one-click chipped/TSOP install.
Easy and quickly done. Had to reformat F:\ again using Chimp for the same reason as before but otherwise smooth as it could be.
All I have to do now is get the programs and tools I want installed from my chipped Xbox. I'm a big fan of UnleashX's Fle Manager's built in FTP facility. If you have two Xboxes it is the most reliable way of transferring stuff between them.
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