Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: Dead HDD?
I'm probably not looking hard enough, but nothing has seemed to help thus far.
The current XBox: model 3944, original xbox, no mods have been done thus far.
The dvd drive (original) has just died off, causing a massive amount of noise being produced from the unit whenever the unit is on. I've decided to replace the drive pretty soon, but also decided to hotswap the HDD into my PC and check it - it was also at the end of it's life. Using the softmodding strategy found here (http://www.instructables.com/id/EV7Y5G8962EWT1KBI0/), I made great progress in attempting to backup the drive, but a problem arose - the drive died before I had a chance to finish it. I've tried everything that I could think of to recover anything from the drive (I've had plenty of experience), but nothing has worked.
Now I've taken an extra 80gig HDD and followed these instructions (http://www.xbox-hq.com/html/xbox-tutorials-161.html). Everything seemed fine, yet when the drive is in the unit, I get an error screen (You're XBox requires service crap) without an error ID. I've done this with afew Xbox's thus far (this is number and this is the first time I've run into this situation.
Any advice?
dartht33bagger Moderator
Joined: Apr 17, 2007 Posts: 5408 Location: Oregon, USA
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:39 am Post subject:
Did you lock the new drive is all i gotta ask? Simple fix for this would be buy a mod chip and a mod chip will run an unlocked drive. Then your xbox would run again. Before you get an error code though, i can't tell you whats wrong. _________________
Kasuo Xbox-HQ Newbie
Joined: Jun 21, 2007 Posts: 8
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject:
Just checked the drive - it appears to be locked. I also turned the xbox on without the DVD drive installed and it somehow loaded the dashboard without any issues. I didn't think that an unmodded xbox could do that...
dartht33bagger Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:
That leads me to beleive your DVD drive is messing with your xbox. Buy a new DVD drive and put it in and see it if it fixes the problem. _________________
pezzar V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: V1.6 Modded: Xenium Gold OS v2.3.1
Joined: May 12, 2005 Posts: 976 Location: Seaside, England
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject:
booting the M$ bios with no DVD drive attached should produce a FRAG with error 12
Kasuo Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.6 Modded: Xenium Gold OS v2.3.1
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:27 am Post subject:
pezzar wrote:
booting the M$ bios with no DVD drive attached should produce a FRAG with error 12
That's what I've always run into, but this is wierd. I decided to go ahead and replace the dvd drive as I was originally planning, yet it acts the same - no error with it disconnected, unknown error when connected. I'm beginning to think that this unit is messed up.
I'll be buying a mod chip for it pretty soon - maybe it'll help bypass the problem.
dartht33bagger Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:03 am Post subject:
Might want to get a new IDE cable to see if that helps, the DVD part on the IDE cable may be shot. _________________
Kasuo Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.6 Modded: Xenium Gold OS v2.3.1
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject:
A new IDE cable has been installed and the problem is still present.
I've been considering flashing the BIOS and see if I could built up this xbox like I did with my nieghbors, but considering that this problem exists I don't know how I should go about it.
How can I flash the BIOS without being able to load a game?
I'd prefer to flash the BIOS over installing a mod chip due to lack in funds.
dartht33bagger Moderator
Joined: Apr 17, 2007 Posts: 5408 Location: Oregon, USA
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject:
If you don't know how to TSOP an xbox you could kill it. Did you get a new dvd drive yet to see if it fixes the problem? _________________
Kasuo Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.6 Modded: Xenium Gold OS v2.3.1
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:43 am Post subject:
Swapping the DVD drive seemed to do nothing.
I took a dvd drive from another xbox, the future dvd drive for this unit, and a random dvd drive from an old pc in my house to try. All resulted in the same error with no ID. Without the dvd drive attached to the IDE cable, I receive an error code of 01.
I'm beginning to think this guy is a lost cause...
dartht33bagger Moderator
Joined: Apr 17, 2007 Posts: 5408 Location: Oregon, USA
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject:
Error code 1 is a motherboard error. So that will be a big problem... _________________
pezzar V.I.P. Lifetime Xbox Version: V1.6 Modded: Xenium Gold OS v2.3.1
Joined: May 12, 2005 Posts: 976 Location: Seaside, England
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject:
sounds like the IDE port on the mobo could be bad
Kasuo Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: V1.6 Modded: Xenium Gold OS v2.3.1
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:14 am Post subject:
After staring at the guts of the unit for a good few hours, I noticed something strange - the heatsink was uneven. I turned around and lightly tapped on the sucker and the whole thing tilted - it looks like when I removed the HDD I somehow knocked the heatsink alittle bit off. I removed the processor and heatsink (nothing was holding them in place, NOTHING!) and reattached everything properly.
Shouldn't the processor be soldered? Shouldn't there be thermal compound between the processor and heatsink?! This first-gen xbox is f'n wierd, 'specially since it's never been opened before me...
Anyways, after that interesting discovery everything is working perfectly! I used NDURE 3.0 to get a new HDD going and the only problem now is that I'm having issues replacing the DVD drive.
I've just turned around and placed the drive over the original, hooked the IDE cable to it and split power from the HDD to power it, yet it won't work. All of the tricks that I've learned and others that I've found through google aren't working...
But I'll work with it for awhile before seeking help.
dartht33bagger Moderator
Joined: Apr 17, 2007 Posts: 5408 Location: Oregon, USA
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject:
The cpu should be soldered on... _________________
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and this is the first time I've run into this situation.
