Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Posts: 866 Location: Kansas City MO
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: Having problems with SID 4? READ HERE!!!
Ok, I see ppl are making threads about issues, this and that, so here i'm gonna state the facts once again, so ppl can read carefully problems and solutions to their issues.
PROBLEMS.
1.- I can't get gamesaves into the memory card with Action Replay?
A.- Make sure you have original Microsoft Memory card or another brand that it's known to work, not all memory cards will allow files that's aren't game related to be added, like zips, rars and non-xbox default files. Also make sure you drag and drop 2 zips, the SID4 Launcher.zip and your game of choice, and you'll add both gamesaves to your xbox, since the launcher are the files that install the softmod, and the other gamesaves are to boot to Launcher, so no launcher and gamesave can lead to ERROR 21, black screen, or MS Dash reboot.
2.- I get just a black screen when i boot it.
A.- make sure you only do it to retail xbox, that means no other softmods installed, if you have a previous softmod install, remove it and leave C in retail, all other files will not be affected, also make sure that's the only gamesave you have, and no other gamesaves in hdd of that 1 game. Another issue is that if you are trying to boot SID 4 when running modded from SID 2 or other PBL based softmod, it will lead to freeze or black screen, this is due to the fact that PBL doesn't allow nkpatcher to load, PLEASE BE IN RETAIL!
ADDED: You cannot boot SID 4, or anyother kind of Nkpatcher System if your xbox has a Flashed tsop with hacked bios like X2, EvoxM?, or any other, nkpatcher will only patch retail bioses, and it will not do anything on others, but the led color if, and same goes for Modchips.
3. I can't install any of the softmods in SID 4!!!
A.- Did you read the manual? Did you read the on-screen warnings?, It will NOT INSTALL if you don't have a retail MS Backup and eeprom made by the installer.
4.- I can't install the Ndure.
A.- Once again, did you read things right?, you CANNOT install unless you have MS Dash 5960 Installed on true C before install.
5.- I successfully installed SID 4, but i can't use the retail mode to go on xbox live.
A.- It should work, as it's proven to work, make sure you power on the xbox with eject button so it loads retail mode, wait till it loads MS Dash, and put game disc in, after ingame sign in with an already made xbox live! gamer tag account. YOU CANNOT MAKE AN ACCOUNT AFTER YOUR MODDED.
ADDED: It's also recomended you set your Network Settings on MS Dash before you install the Ndure softmod, to ensure that you can connect to Xbox Live!, if you try to troubleshoot the network with xbox MS Dash, it will try to update your dashboard, leading to a fail updated, and causing your xbox boot to error 21 when your try to run retail mode.
To fix the error 21 after this mistake, you simply coldboot your game to install SID 4, and you'll uninstall SID 4, make any network changes, etc, then install SID 4 again, this way all your settings must be save.
Recently on PAGE 2 of this Thread, xbox hq username: 2gunsup seem to found a weird fix for his problem, and it's to set your network to DHCP in your UnleashX dash or Evox dash, when your modded, and when you boot in retail mode, it allows you to not run into this problem.
6.- Why do i have to set my clock every time i power on the xbox?
A.- You should only have to set it once after softmod is installed, and only after you unplugg after 4 hours. So make sure YOU SET YOUR CLOCK, and press "A" to save it to xbox, then IGR or power off, and on so it takes effects, that way you shoudln't have to set your clock again, unless of course you cut power for more than 4 hours.
7.- When i ftp i can see F and G, but i can't access them.
A.- You cannot access to what you dont' have, by default SID 4 is set to enable both of these so you don't have to worry about updating your lb48 patch etc, some xbox stock hdds have F, some have G, the only real way to know if you have an F, is by using file explorer with UnleashX or SID 4, and if you see F you have it, if you don't see F, then you don't!
8.- When i boot retail mode, all i get is a hang, and black screen.
A.- Make sure that ms dash was not modded at all, but here's a manual solution if you have this.
-Boot SID 4, use the file manager, go to C, and look for the file called: settings_adoc.xip, make sure you don't have it in C, or C:\xboxdashdata185ead00, this can make it hang, also this file is to be deleted automaticly by the installer, and it's also the reason why you must set your clock when you boot you xbox after the install of SID 4.
9.- When i boot Ndure retail mode, all looks good, but i choose the xbox live tab from MS Dash and it goes to a black screen.
A.- Simply is cause xbox live tab from ms dash loads it's own dash files from C:\xodash, but that's where the exploit fonts are located, so if you choose that it will freeze cause it will try to load the fonts again, leading to wanting to boot softmod, which will end up freezing, you will also get a black screen if you try to PUT A BACKUP GAME when running Ndure. In no way Ndure allows you to run backups in Xbox Live!. Use FuckMS for that, but we will not help you do this, and you can get into serious problems and get your credit card blacklisted if caught.
- Always sign in to xbox live from ingame, not from MS Dash.
11.- I get black and white, or distorted video after installing SID 4.
A.- Sorry, but this has been an Issue spoted on some xboxes, mostly PAL Region 2, all NTSC and PAL Region 4 have been succesful, but here's a file that should fix it.
http://www.xbox-hq.com/uploads/nknave/zip%20fixes/pal.zip
I can't garantee that it will work for you, as we don't have many beta PAL Region 2 Testers, but if your 1 of these and using this fix works for you, please post your xbox version, and results.
Tutorial.
-Download file called "pal.zip"
-Replace it in the Zip file called "SID4.NK.Launcher.zip"
-open zip, travel inside the zip to \UDATA\21585554\0000000000\
-delete old "pal.zip", and add this fixed once, and save it, now put on your action replay memory card, update your gamesave in your xbox, and redo the softmod.
If this doesn't work, here's DJB Fix, originally posted by INSOMANIAC, using Enigmah NTSC-PAL switcher Disc.
DJB/INSOMANIAC wrote:
Needed tools: Enigmah NTSC-PAL Switcher
1) Install SID 4 like normal using PAL. Let it go all the way through. This means making an eeprom backup obviously.
2) If it continues to be not fixed, go to Enigmah NTSC-PAL Switcher.
2a) Switch it to NTSC and reboot (the reason to do this is because the region may not be patched properly). The video should go all grey now.
3) Go to the Enigmah Switcher again and set to PAL, and reboot.
4) Now it should be fine.
Known Bugs known so far.
1) some PAL xboxes don't like virtual eeprom patching
-download new pal.zip found in ISSUE #11.
2) both evox, and unleashX try to run MS Dashboard from "msdash.xbe"
-forgot to fix it to load xboxdash.xbe, since it's in virtual partition, and files aren't modded, virtual partition has clean ms dash.
FIX!:, ftp to xbox, look in either E:\evox.ini if running evox, or E:\Config.xml if runnig UnleashX, and edit the file to look in xboxdash.xbe
FIX!2?: ftp to xbox, and travel to C, and rename xboxdash.xbe to msdash.xbe <<<LOT EASIER.
3) some ppl can get a hang in the last part of the install of SID 4.
- this is not fixable, some xbox hdd's, and not only stock, can have issues when it comes to formatting virtual partitions. The thing is that it won't allow you to format virtual C, leading not having your MS Dash accessable from mod.
Some sort of a solution.
After you install SID 4, and patching of eeprom is done, you'll be at main menu, simply use the file manager, and do the following.
1.- Delete E:\DASH\
2.- Copy from E:\WAIT\ to E:\ , this will be evoxdash.xbe and it's config or ini file.
3.- Delete E:\WAIT\.
4.- Power off, and power back on.
Softmod will be like normal, just can't make use of Virtual C drive, nor MS Dash, this doesn't affect games, nor anything else of the xbox.
Solution 2.
Install SID 4 on another xbox that does complete the install, after it's done with full install, power off that xbox, boot SID 4, then gain FTP access to xbox, and download file called "shadowc.img" to your computer, and upload to your
xbox via ftp when SID 4 is booted.
Tutorial....kinda.
1.- install SID 4 on an xbox that fully accepts it.
2.- boot SID 4 on xbox that has it fully installed.
3.- FTP to that xbox in C:\ and copy "shadowc.img" to your computer.
4.- boot SID 4 on xbox that doesn't accept it after the fix of E:\DASH\ E:\WAIT\ have been solved.
5.- ftp "shadowc.img" from pc to xbox in C:\ replacing existing.
Now you'll have it working, and ms dash will be there, but!!!!!, it's read only, that means, you cannot add files to C, nor delete files, nor format, but
your xbox can still use Microsoft's Xbox dash.
It's hard hunting threads in forums to answer, so i made this for you.
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Last edited by nknave on Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:50 am; edited 9 times in total
A5568 Xbox-HQ Member Xbox Version: Xbox V1.6 Modded: Softmodded SID 4.5
Joined: Aug 04, 2005 Posts: 73 Location: Canada
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:44 am Post subject:
yo thnx a lot nkave everything works fine and its a GREAT system im right now in xbox live downloading the maps on halo2 and having fun on a softmodded xbox sweet dude i love it and now my problem is fixed
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:29 am Post subject:
D00d, lemmie say again... FINE piece of work. You and DJB are the softmodding gods, lol. I was having some trouble with the MS Retail boot... was about to PM you, saw this topic, holy hell! there's the damned thing! Thanks, man, not only are you skilled, you're f00kin telepathic! take it easy, bro. _________________ "That which does not kill you, only makes you stronger."
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blighty Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: Xbox V1.6 Modded: Softmodded SID 4.5
Joined: Nov 27, 2004 Posts: 881
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:07 pm Post subject:
Yep, This sure is state of the art.
I`m a little gutted to find the I can`t use the voice chat feature anymore.
Me and my brother sit for hours in there chatting to each other while we watch our favorite tv shows. I had thought i`d done something wrong as
I could not find anything about what changes will happen to ms dash using ndure duel boot,
but thankyou for clearing that up for me.
Still i`d rather have SID4! and we will just have to make private lobbeys from now on (or sort out that voice over i.p. thing that ava has, Anyone ever used that? )
Anyway. I can use my dvd player again!! yippie!!! goodbye sid3 lite,
it was nice knowing you.
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: SID4 question
Can SID4 boot my Surreal64 disc?
nknave Xbox-HQ Freak
Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Posts: 866 Location: Kansas City MO
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: SID4 question
69MaxImuS69 wrote:
Can SID4 boot my Surreal64 disc?
Funny question, and offtopic, but i'll answer anyways.
Yes, SID 4 allows you to run unsigned code, just like a modchip or previous sofmtods.
As for the Surreal64 disc, i'm not sure, i can't get it to work off disc, only in hdd. _________________ Xbox v1.1
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:22 am Post subject:
nknave wrote:
*BUMP*
Just added Issue #11, and it has the new "pal.zip" that should fix up the black and white issues on some PAL Region 2 xboxes.
It's in the main post.
*I can't garantee it will work, but we are hoping so, as we are also getting ppl with this specific xbox' to test for us*
NKnave
Here's an idea of what could be done to help (REGION 2 TESTERS ONLY!!)
If it fails, do this (I done this in testing stages to get it work with Region 4)
Needed tools: Enigmah NTSC-PAL Switcher
1) Install SID 4 like normal using PAL. Let it go all the way through. This means making an eeprom backup obviously.
2) If it continues to be not fixed, go to Enigmah NTSC-PAL Switcher.
2a) Switch it to NTSC and reboot (the reason to do this is because the region may not be patched properly). The video should go all grey now.
3) Go to the Enigmah Switcher again and set to PAL, and reboot.
4) Now it should be fine.
If this works, we DESPERATLY need help with two files.
* C:\eeprom.bin (which is on your normal C Drive, not virtual)
* E:\UDATA\21585554\000000000000\Backup\eeprom.bin
(To access the eeprom.bin on C you'll probably have to boot the xbox via retail and load the gamesave.)
Send them to either myself or nknave and we''l make a PPF patch out of this, and hopefully might work. There might have to seperate Region 2 + 4 Installs for PAL, but we'll see what happens.
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Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Posts: 866 Location: Kansas City MO
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:
*BUMP*..........AGAIN
Added Info on Main page. _________________ Xbox v1.1
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Gorila_Jakester Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: 1.6 Modded: aladdin xt (damn)
Joined: Dec 24, 2005 Posts: 2
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: Error21
i try to use the new spft mod it doesnt work i get error code 21 i try to use old soft mod it doesnt work i get error 21 i try any thing soft mod related and bamm error 21 it seems as though my xbox is unmoddable and that i have to go and buy a new retail xbox hard drive. do i really have to buy a new retail hdd or can you help mee around this DJB i just got my mom to buy vip downloads for a year so its gonna be hard to get a retail hdd can you help me
~gorila jakester
nknave Xbox-HQ Freak
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:14 am Post subject:
did you make sure you put the SID4.NK.Launcher.zip in your memory card and your xbox as well?
Gamesaves will boot to Linux Installer/SID 4 Launcher, so if you didn't put them, you'll get error 21, cause it can't find the xbe target, in this case it's
\UDATA\21585554\00000000000\menu.xbe
all gamesaves boot to this, so if you don't have both zips, then.......BAM! error 21.
Hope you get this working.
Merry Chrismas, and yes i still got like 6 hours till Xmas, i'm not in Australia. _________________ Xbox v1.1
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: Xbox HDD Rescue
If you have your EEPROM backup copied to your PC(via FTP) and a downloaded copy of Xbox HD Maker and Recovery Tool v1.9, then no sweat.
If you need more info, just give a holla!
Gorila_Jakester Xbox-HQ Newbie Xbox Version: 1.6 Modded: aladdin xt (damn)
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: hmmmm
I"m so thank ful, but could you guys help me a bit more, if thats alright. but im sorry to say that i cant do much of any thing with the soft mod, now all i get is the orange led and a black screen(witch i read above was cause of it not being retial) im sure my box isn't 100% retail. so is there any custom changes to SID 4 i can make to some how force its to boot or is that immpossible. ive been on the soft mod wagon sence softmodding was first introduced to me back in the screensaver days(any one seen it old tech show the shit) i absolutle love the auto instaler discs and my roms and especially my XBMC with my computers videos on it. can any thing be done to boot up SID 4 on my box im not sure if u guys use a hex edditor to make it or what it is but if theres any thing anyone knows that can help me, pleasee!?!?!? OH and Merry Merry Christmas!!!!!!! i cant quite ftp ither because my box is sort of unmodded??
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