Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: DVD Cleaner (as in a disk)
Okay here is my problem, I am looking for a dvd cleaner for the lens. I remember reading that you should never do this and it might make things worse. That microsoft does not support or suggest doing this at all.
Ok I also read that some people done this but they use specific ones and not the run of the mill store bought cleaner with brushes. It has a certain brush and fibers and liquid, etc etc.
My question is to the community what would be the best and most safest to use? I can't find a product on this and would appreciate a link and help plz. Thanks!
wes213 Administrator
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:37 am Post subject:
Ez fix man 1 drop of rubbing alcohol on a q-tip and a real lite hand thats better for the lens then high speed brushes beating the hell out of it.
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:57 am Post subject:
Thats exactly how I do it... I've saved a few xboxes by doing this. you just pop off the case so you can get at the laser and very carefully clean it off. _________________
slane420 Xbox-HQ Enthusiast
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:53 am Post subject:
So you are saying I have to this right here? Then clean it with a Q-tip?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:19 am Post subject:
Yup... the first xbox dvd drive I took apart was a philips and it was a breeze. You really only have to go as far as you need to to get the laser. _________________
slane420 Xbox-HQ Enthusiast
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:38 am Post subject:
bongripz216 wrote:
Yup... the first xbox dvd drive I took apart was a philips and it was a breeze. You really only have to go as far as you need to to get the laser.
Dang, that crap scares me to death, I might be superstition but I been having bad luck the past few days. Knowing myself I might mess it all up and wont work any more.
With that tut, anyone thing I should use another one of is that one fine? All I need is a screw driver right? I want to be 100% positive what "items" I need before doing this ya know?
Mathgammon Xbox-HQ Enthusiast Xbox Version: 1.0, 1.6 Modded: X3CE, Duox2GS
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:33 am Post subject:
Well...
If all you're doing is cleaning the lens, you really don't need to disassemble the whole damn thing into component parts as shown in the tutorial. Just break it down until you have clear access to the laser lens (unless you plan on cleaning the mirror as well, which I wouldn't recommend unless cleaning the lens doesn't work for you). As for a screwdriver, yes, that's all you need. More specifically, two of them: a Torx T-20 for the mondo screws holding your case together and a Torx T-10 for the plastic array holding the DVD drive (and HDD) in. It CAN be done with a Phillips or even a flathead screwdriver--I took apart my first case or two with a pair of Phillips screwdrivers before I broke down and bought some Torx bits--but you risk stripping the screwheads if you're not careful.
A last bit of advice: be gentle! Don't blow on the lens to help it dry, don't touch it with anything except the Q-tip, and don't press...a light touch is all that is required. With a bit of care, you should have nothing to worry about.
slane420 Xbox-HQ Enthusiast
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject:
Thanks Math, for the greatly detailed advice you don't know how much this will help me. As for the screws part and torx etc. I did that the first time I opened my box using phillips lol. I did in fact strip a screw. Lucky I have so many little screws from old computers and computer parts I saved. Its a bag full of them and one of them fit. Just screwed that thing in.
Okay I will be sure not to blow on it or anything of that nature. I might as well clean the mirror. I bet its dusty as hell, this xbox is the first model to come out. That just tells you how old it is.
wes213 Administrator
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject:
Its all good man dont clean it with a hammer and youll be fine, when i first started modding i pulled a dvd drive out took it all apart and slaped it back together with little to no idea of what i was doing and it still worked .
Be careful but dont over think it.
slane420 Xbox-HQ Enthusiast
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:39 am Post subject:
Ok one last question, as for the mirror?
Is that the mirror? The see through thing by the laser?
I csnt find it but oh well, I cant remove the tray even when I lifted that thing it wont budge. I wont force it or try any harder. I got to the lens and just used what was needed with a q-tip. Now its just dtying out now then I guess I can close it. It had a dust rind on the lid lol. A shape of a cd...
wes213 Administrator
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:28 am Post subject:
Sorry it took me so long to get to this post man i had a long day.
Its np thanks! I think thats the site I was using, the one for phillips thats my model. Couldnt get the tray to come off and was able to see the eye. So I just cleaned that and closed it back up. My luck the page isnt loading now but im already done haha. I hope this fixes my problem if not its the media disks im using.
Had to clean it becaues my burned cd's work halfway then says dirty or some crap. Can't play any of the games at all.
Joined: Dec 08, 2006 Posts: 2337 Location: Repping the (216) yo
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:58 am Post subject:
With the Philips drive, theres a manual release switch near the gears. You gotta jam a paperclip in and you can open the drive manualy. It shows you how to do it somewhere on www.llama.com
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: micro what
Honestly the only reason why Microsoft says not to clean your lens is so that the machines go out and you either send it to them so they make money or go buy another machine so they make money....
For best results practice on an old dead IDE CDrom drive first, Get the operation down before performing on the real patient....Thats what I usually do before cleaning or solderin something....
Also dont go over 75% Isopropyl Alcohol(rubbing alcohol)....Any higher and can result in bad things to electronics, lenses, and well just dont do it...
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wes213 Administrator
Joined: Feb 04, 2007 Posts: 10518 Location: Harrisonburg V.A.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject:
I use higher then 75% its not a bad thing, you just dont want to go dumping it on thare.
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