cabbot Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: 1.1 Modded: SID4.5
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:56 am Post subject:
thanks for your input....do you know if the extra mb's of buffer are useless in xbox like sjohn said? _________________
DiscGolfDiver Xbox-HQ Elite Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:48 am Post subject:
The main reason I say take Maxtor is the 16mb cache will make your xbox run much smoother and quicker. I have a 300 gig hard drive in my xbox, and I have over a hundred gigabytes of free space. There are only so many games you can play, so get the drive that is going to increase your game play. I love Western Digital, I really do, but I have had a Maxtor Hard drive in my xbox for a long time, and it works great.
cabbot Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: 1.1 Modded: SID4.5
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:55 am Post subject:
DiscGolfDiver wrote:
The main reason I say take Maxtor is the 16mb cache will make your xbox run much smoother and quicker. I have a 300 gig hard drive in my xbox, and I have over a hundred gigabytes of free space. There are only so many games you can play, so get the drive that is going to increase your game play. I love Western Digital, I really do, but I have had a Maxtor Hard drive in my xbox for a long time, and it works great.
so what your saying is there is a difference between the 8mb and 16mb of cache? this is why im torn right now between the two...
sjohn was sayin it wouldnt make a difference:
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With the 8mb vs 16mb cache, you really won't notice a difference when it comes to the xbox, as the processor is much slower than today's processors. Heck the cable in the xbox is only an ATA100 cable, not even an ATA133 cable, that right there alone basically makes the 16mb perform basically as fast as the 8mb cache would.
and i actually just found out if its true from llamma.com that the xbox :
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Hard drive is capable of ATA 100 yet a standard IDE cable was installed by the manufacturer in all consoles.
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:50 am Post subject:
Hey, do you know what the exact model Numbers are?
If the WD has a model number ending with JB or JBRTL it should be lockable, if it is a Caviar SE it is lockable. _________________ I think I like fixing Boxes more than using them!
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gus738 Xbox-HQ Newbie
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:14 am Post subject:
srry wasnt on pc for a while, umm yea the xbox ide cable only transfers about 66 i belive .... so between an 8 mb to 16 its milisecs which you wont see a diffrense...
so honestly these are the top brands i delt with and it just matter of speaking what you thin its good or the price or in this case i would pay attention to the gb size not on the buffer ... _________________ Xbox 360 Premium edition
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cabbot Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: 1.1 Modded: SID4.5
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject:
ok if the buffer isnt a factor than i guess the extra 20 gigs it is....
lee337 it ends in a jb...i checked the database and its all good..... _________________
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject:
gus738 wrote:
srry wasnt on pc for a while, umm yea the xbox ide cable only transfers about 66 i belive .... so between an 8 mb to 16 its milisecs which you wont see a diffrense...
so honestly these are the top brands i delt with and it just matter of speaking what you thin its good or the price or in this case i would pay attention to the gb size not on the buffer ...
i just remembered something...on llamma theres a cable mod....they switch the stock xbox one for an ATA100....and theres an increase in speeds....if i did that too would the 16 mb buffer be worth it then?
toast(from llamma.com wrote:
Benchmark courtesy of toast-
I read that you were interested in further information on what improvements (if any) the ATA100 mod has on the Xbox. So, I did some rough benchmarking - using the same system, I timed loads of games prior to and following the ATA100 mod install. I used the ATA100 cables you provide ...
Anyway...
The setup: 1 Un-moded Xbox system
The Test:
Halo: 1 Player, Normal Difficulty, Level 1 Load (Pillar of Autumn)
Halo: 1 Player, Normal Difficulty, Level 5 Load (Silent Cartographer)
Prince of Persia: New Game, Loading prior to first movie / level
SW - Knights of the Old Republic: Loading of Saved Game on planet Kashyyyk
*All recorded times rounded to the nearest 1/2 sec.
So the ATA100 Mod improves load times ~20-30% - Quite a reasonable improvement for such an inexpensive part. Worthwhile for any Xbox user to do.
Thanks!
-Toast
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject:
yeah i know they did it and i saw their videos those cables show a great speed of diffrense , so i dont know... i would just make it simple and grab the biggest amount of hd...! but again that cable doesnt hurt for an extra $5 -10 dollars... _________________ Xbox 360 Premium edition
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cabbot Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: 1.1 Modded: SID4.5
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject:
gus738 wrote:
yeah i know they did it and i saw their videos those cables show a great speed of diffrense , so i dont know... i would just make it simple and grab the biggest amount of hd...! but again that cable doesnt hurt for an extra $5 -10 dollars...
is it just a basic ata100 cable that i can get at a computer store do you know? _________________
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject:
Western Digital all the way. Plus, who can pass up 20 free gigs?
gus738 Xbox-HQ Newbie
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:
no i dont belive its just an ordinary cable... even if it was its more expensive in stores then just buying from llama ..... but i would pay for the extra gbs!... _________________ Xbox 360 Premium edition
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cabbot Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: 1.1 Modded: SID4.5
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:
ok well sounds settled then....the western digital 7200rpm 8mb cache it is...
this store i found them at is the cheapest ive seen up here...i priced the same ones at different spots and they were all like 100 more.... _________________
sjohn Moderator
Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1472 Location: Alabama
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject:
That ATA100 cable llamma uses is a standard ATA100 cable, just the only worry would be the length, if you can look at it with your hands on, just take your old one and see if it work with the xbox. _________________
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject:
apparently the stock xbox cable is 22 inches....so if i just buy a standard ata100 cable of similar length it should work?
also i dont know much about cables...if i bought a new one is it 80 or 40 pin? from what ive seen on sites it would be an 80 i think.... _________________
LEE337 Xbox-HQ Freak Xbox Version: 1.1 Modded: SID4.5
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject:
ATA100 and 133 need an 80 pin cable. _________________ I think I like fixing Boxes more than using them!
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